Trump has carve-out for the jews but nothing for Whites. He specifically doesn't mention 'freedom of association' in the list of rights he claims he will uphold. Anyone remember the bumpstock ban? Probably no, because MAGA has some serious memory issues. Until the guy starts specifically talking to White issues, he's not getting my vote. If you're White and you vote for Trump, you are in no position to complain when goes out if his way to screw you over (First Step, Platinum Plan). No thanks.
He’s a step in the right direction. And his VP pick is a guy who got famous for writing a book explicitly about bringing attention to the issues facing the white working class, and who’s only become more based since. If that’s not a signal to us that you’ll accept then i don’t know know what is, save literally going and saying the 14 words on stage or something, which is just not how this works.
Vance despises his own people so much he married a non-White. Trump makes overt gestures of support and appeal to every group but Whites, especially White men. In fact, in 2020 he called White men struggling in an anti-White anti-male economy 'losers'.
Trump exclusivevpanders to Non-Whites and most particularly jews.
He takes the White Vote for granted.
As long as Whites refuse to punish those who don't take our side we will continue to lose to non-Whites.
>”Vance despises his own people so much he married a non-White.”
Sorry, that’s retarded. There are a million reasons and factors that go into deciding who to marry, and ideology is not an important one to most people. The best proof of this is the fact that most liberal/elite whites marry other whites despite being anti white identitarianism and pro race-mixing in principle. Ideology simply doesn’t figure into it.
>”A vote for Trump is not a vote for Whites.”
I hate to evoke the cliche “lesser of two evils” argument, but who else is there to vote for?
I’ve never voted before (despite being old enough in 2020), but i plan to vote for Trump this time because i think his reaction to being shot broke through the normal “kayfabe” of electoral politics and revealed actual leadership qualities underneath. Your criticisms are not invalid, but you have to learn not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
The fact is that I have a pro-White racial consciousness and you do not. Vance is not pro-White and at the national level, racial choices trump all others. That's it works for jews, negroes and other darkies.
You're young. My advice to you would be to concentrate on state and local races and local politics in general.
Any time, energy or money you put in continental elections will *never* pay any dividends. Trump is a whore to Zionist jews and the pro-mass-immigration Chamber of Commerce.
Trump and Vance are anti-White wolves in 'multi-racial working-class coalition' clothing.
When Trump repudiated Project 2025 that was Trump announcing to the jews and liberals that he is 100% on-board with the anti-White project.
I suspect TophamHatt if he’s the same one as from Twitter to be a BAPist, thus he will never have any kind of racial consiousness that isn’t endorsed by Costin’s Crowd of NYC Art Hoes.
You state two things as if the have the same factual status when they do not. Yes, Whites have to confront the reality of having been racially betrayed by every institution in which they have placed their trust. Yes, Whites are being rapidly displaced by non-Whites on a continental scale. These are facts that Whites need to attend to without flinching or despair.
But the idea that Whites will remain a continental minority forever, continually being displaced and dispossessed is an assertion, not a fact.
Whites must accept without flinching the fact that they are a stateless people and develop a racial consciousness consistent with the desire to protect our ability to safely live and breed while White.
As White racial consciousness grows the situation for non-Whites and anti-Whites will change.
The enemies of Whites want White people to focus on the past and imaginary futures to distract Whites from acting in the present.
There's a reason for that: Nothing they've tried to put into place is inevitable or irrevocable.
Your refuting things I never argued for. You're having an argument with yourself.
The White Nationalist orientation in America is finally growing up and realizing that the task before them cannot depend on seizing control of the national means of decision-production.
The future of pro-White politics lies, rather, with frustrating the Federal Authority and building power at the state and local level by pursuing popular policies.
Any state legislative representative is far more relevant to your future as a White person than any President.
The higher the office, the more it costs to run for office.
The more it costs to run for office, the more money-people control the agenda.
This is why it has become a maxim of White American politics that 'The bigger the race, the bigger the betrayal.'
Also, one doesn't need to be 'openly' pro-White to be pro-White. Just don't pander to jews and darkies and White people will get the message.
You’ve simply accepted that there’s nothing effective to do. And this is before anyone has even tried to do something that might be effective.
If states decide to nullify the Federal Authority on immigration, there will be more support for it than you realize. When Abbott decided to defy the Federal Authority in Texas (however trivial the defiance), nine state governors sided with him. All in the Midwest. All contiguous.
Where were the riots in those states saying how much they like brown people?
The number and intensity of MLK celebrations have died off quite substantially over the years.
There’s been an ‘ethnic cleansing’ of tens of millions of Whites from their traditional homelands. I see no reason that same cannot be accomplished with the non-Whites from the same homelands.
Whites are being pushed through an evolutionary thresher. The survivors will not be like the Whites you think you know now. They will be harder when it comes to non-Whites and claims of ‘universal values’.
If the price of restoring White homelands to Whites is the suffering of millions of non-Whites, I’m good with that. Even if it means the suffering of non-Whites that I know and like. Just as non-Whites have been happy to extract value from White homelands at the price of White suffering.
When you grow up, you realize that someone else’s suffering is often the only way to get what you want.
The racial enemies of Whites only care about White suffering to the extent that it might interfere with their expropriation of value from Whites.
Whites caring about Whites because they are White (and no other reason) is the way forward for Whites. Between Whites and non-Whites, the policy has to be ‘Your pain is not my own.’
The non-Whites who wanted a world of ‘universal values’ and ‘universal humanity’ should have stayed home.
An interesting conversation between what are essentially two early 90’s moderate Democrat pragmatists. These are not ideologues debating elite political theory, this is an industrial capitalist innovator conversing with a now populist politician/real estate developer/media showman about the common sense changes which need to take place to slow down the rot in the system. In the list of 20 bullet points, items 6 and 14 are mutually exclusive minus a miraculous step change in the “real” economy, and this is only possible by a significantly regulatory unburdened entrepreneur class. You are correct, there is only one viable option in 2024, not just for the US, but for the West in general
Trump has carve-out for the jews but nothing for Whites. He specifically doesn't mention 'freedom of association' in the list of rights he claims he will uphold. Anyone remember the bumpstock ban? Probably no, because MAGA has some serious memory issues. Until the guy starts specifically talking to White issues, he's not getting my vote. If you're White and you vote for Trump, you are in no position to complain when goes out if his way to screw you over (First Step, Platinum Plan). No thanks.
He’s a step in the right direction. And his VP pick is a guy who got famous for writing a book explicitly about bringing attention to the issues facing the white working class, and who’s only become more based since. If that’s not a signal to us that you’ll accept then i don’t know know what is, save literally going and saying the 14 words on stage or something, which is just not how this works.
You’re a deluded Hopium Addict. His VP pick is a racemixing israel shill.
Stop Smoking Hopium and Stop Supporting Grifters.
Vance despises his own people so much he married a non-White. Trump makes overt gestures of support and appeal to every group but Whites, especially White men. In fact, in 2020 he called White men struggling in an anti-White anti-male economy 'losers'.
Trump exclusivevpanders to Non-Whites and most particularly jews.
He takes the White Vote for granted.
As long as Whites refuse to punish those who don't take our side we will continue to lose to non-Whites.
A vote for Trump is not a vote for Whites.
>”Vance despises his own people so much he married a non-White.”
Sorry, that’s retarded. There are a million reasons and factors that go into deciding who to marry, and ideology is not an important one to most people. The best proof of this is the fact that most liberal/elite whites marry other whites despite being anti white identitarianism and pro race-mixing in principle. Ideology simply doesn’t figure into it.
>”A vote for Trump is not a vote for Whites.”
I hate to evoke the cliche “lesser of two evils” argument, but who else is there to vote for?
I’ve never voted before (despite being old enough in 2020), but i plan to vote for Trump this time because i think his reaction to being shot broke through the normal “kayfabe” of electoral politics and revealed actual leadership qualities underneath. Your criticisms are not invalid, but you have to learn not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
The fact is that I have a pro-White racial consciousness and you do not. Vance is not pro-White and at the national level, racial choices trump all others. That's it works for jews, negroes and other darkies.
You're young. My advice to you would be to concentrate on state and local races and local politics in general.
Any time, energy or money you put in continental elections will *never* pay any dividends. Trump is a whore to Zionist jews and the pro-mass-immigration Chamber of Commerce.
Trump and Vance are anti-White wolves in 'multi-racial working-class coalition' clothing.
When Trump repudiated Project 2025 that was Trump announcing to the jews and liberals that he is 100% on-board with the anti-White project.
I suspect TophamHatt if he’s the same one as from Twitter to be a BAPist, thus he will never have any kind of racial consiousness that isn’t endorsed by Costin’s Crowd of NYC Art Hoes.
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You state two things as if the have the same factual status when they do not. Yes, Whites have to confront the reality of having been racially betrayed by every institution in which they have placed their trust. Yes, Whites are being rapidly displaced by non-Whites on a continental scale. These are facts that Whites need to attend to without flinching or despair.
But the idea that Whites will remain a continental minority forever, continually being displaced and dispossessed is an assertion, not a fact.
Whites must accept without flinching the fact that they are a stateless people and develop a racial consciousness consistent with the desire to protect our ability to safely live and breed while White.
As White racial consciousness grows the situation for non-Whites and anti-Whites will change.
The enemies of Whites want White people to focus on the past and imaginary futures to distract Whites from acting in the present.
There's a reason for that: Nothing they've tried to put into place is inevitable or irrevocable.
Your refuting things I never argued for. You're having an argument with yourself.
The White Nationalist orientation in America is finally growing up and realizing that the task before them cannot depend on seizing control of the national means of decision-production.
The future of pro-White politics lies, rather, with frustrating the Federal Authority and building power at the state and local level by pursuing popular policies.
Any state legislative representative is far more relevant to your future as a White person than any President.
The higher the office, the more it costs to run for office.
The more it costs to run for office, the more money-people control the agenda.
This is why it has become a maxim of White American politics that 'The bigger the race, the bigger the betrayal.'
Also, one doesn't need to be 'openly' pro-White to be pro-White. Just don't pander to jews and darkies and White people will get the message.
You’ve simply accepted that there’s nothing effective to do. And this is before anyone has even tried to do something that might be effective.
If states decide to nullify the Federal Authority on immigration, there will be more support for it than you realize. When Abbott decided to defy the Federal Authority in Texas (however trivial the defiance), nine state governors sided with him. All in the Midwest. All contiguous.
Where were the riots in those states saying how much they like brown people?
The number and intensity of MLK celebrations have died off quite substantially over the years.
What you call ‘delusional’, I call ‘futurist’.
There’s been an ‘ethnic cleansing’ of tens of millions of Whites from their traditional homelands. I see no reason that same cannot be accomplished with the non-Whites from the same homelands.
Whites are being pushed through an evolutionary thresher. The survivors will not be like the Whites you think you know now. They will be harder when it comes to non-Whites and claims of ‘universal values’.
If the price of restoring White homelands to Whites is the suffering of millions of non-Whites, I’m good with that. Even if it means the suffering of non-Whites that I know and like. Just as non-Whites have been happy to extract value from White homelands at the price of White suffering.
When you grow up, you realize that someone else’s suffering is often the only way to get what you want.
The racial enemies of Whites only care about White suffering to the extent that it might interfere with their expropriation of value from Whites.
Whites caring about Whites because they are White (and no other reason) is the way forward for Whites. Between Whites and non-Whites, the policy has to be ‘Your pain is not my own.’
The non-Whites who wanted a world of ‘universal values’ and ‘universal humanity’ should have stayed home.
Voting, eh?
I'm voting 'None of the above' for President.
An interesting conversation between what are essentially two early 90’s moderate Democrat pragmatists. These are not ideologues debating elite political theory, this is an industrial capitalist innovator conversing with a now populist politician/real estate developer/media showman about the common sense changes which need to take place to slow down the rot in the system. In the list of 20 bullet points, items 6 and 14 are mutually exclusive minus a miraculous step change in the “real” economy, and this is only possible by a significantly regulatory unburdened entrepreneur class. You are correct, there is only one viable option in 2024, not just for the US, but for the West in general
Excellent reporting and commentary. Thank you.
I don't get it, was Trump or Musk supposed to be the ideas guy?