After the Immigration Act of 1924, Catholicism began to take root in the heavily migrated areas on the two coasts of the US. Protestants, by the 60s remained in their pre-20th century numbers in only the heartlands and American south. These two regions should be noted as the most conservative and traditional of the nation: the people who opposed interventionism in the two World Wars, and formed the brunt of the pushback to the Progressive Revolution of the 60-70s. When the many mainline churches went liberal, it was no surprise that this core of Americans became Evangelicals, which in the late 20th century meant a commitment to scriptural teachings that were being abandoned by the mainlines, as well as a revivalist (or literally evangelical) attitude.
From Dixieland to Boise, these folks have been the overwhelming "bulwark" to progressivism, which should not come as a shock considering their roots. 83% of them voted for Trump in 2024, the highest of any bloc in the country, a wild number considering there may be as much as 50 million of them.
My only complaint about White Evangelicals is how politically naive they've been, but that applies to all American conservatism. They're good people, with decent values, trying to do what's right. You know what they lack? Leadership that isn't totally subverted.
As for Pope Leo XIV, I'm doing what Catholics everywhere (and all Christians really) should be doing. I'm praying for His Holiness to be guided by the Holy Ghost to lead the Church in the way which glorifies Our Lord. It's not so much to ask for believers to pray for their leaders.
If the Right wants to keep losing, all they need to do is keep throwing White American Evangelicals under the bus. Every time they’re dismissed as backward, mocked as uncool, or sidelined in favor of more cosmopolitan coalitions, the Right weakens its very spine. Like it or not, White American Evangelicals are the essential demographic to restoring any semblance of national coherence, moral clarity, and cultural survival.
No, this doesn’t mean their culture will become the high culture of the new regime. It won’t—and it shouldn’t. It’s the responsibility of the emergent elite to lead: to craft a new civilizational vision that inspires and uplifts the people who still believe in something greater than themselves. That’s what leadership is: not chasing the aesthetic of the people, but building a culture worthy of their loyalty.
But if you think you can win without them, you’re delusional. Don’t believe me? Walk into a megachurch on a Sunday morning. Look around. You may find yourself thinking what I did the first time: this level of organization happens every week? The volunteers, the childcare, the logistics, the music, the commitment—every single Sunday, across the country.
That’s not a weakness. That’s not a liability. That’s latent power.
White American Evangelicals are a key piece to winning. In fact, they may be our Hekatoncheires—the ancient giants, scorned and forgotten, who turned the tide when unleashed. No other group in the West still gathers like this, still believes like this, still raises families like this. They’re not perfect. But they’re still alive—and still willing to fight for something.
Mock them, and you lose. Lead them, and we just might win.
New Atheism gained massive ground in the early 00s because Evangelical Christianity in the 70s-90s was an absolute dumpster fire.
The Evangelical churches did tremendous damage with absurd dogmas; physically and psychologically abusive practices; egalitarian anti-white, third-world guilt-tripping; end-times lunacy; and rabid Zionism -- all of which turned waves of the young straight into the arms of leftists who "did Jesus" better than the churches who preached him.
Doubt this? Head over to /r/exvangelical and just spend some time reading about the experiences of people who are "deconstructing", and *why* they are doing so. To a man, they are almost all progressives liberals now.
Donald Trump's Avatar of Evangelicalism, Paula White, is a shameless grifter who preys on people through mass hypnosis techniques and emotional manipulation. Is this what you want to defend?
I agree with this. I grew up in an environment as evangelical as it gets. This idea of one person reading the Bible and translating it for himself is what evangelicals are really all about, and I have seen it over and over really hurt and damage people. I’m too American to be orthodox I don’t like the idea of just “refer to the church fathers, refer to the church fathers,” either, which leaves me no where to go.
Not Catholics writ large, they vary greatly. But I agree there's a (disturbing, IMO) broad swathe of Catholic liberals. Then there's the Catholic Right, and they range from neocons like Paul Ryan to based bros like JD Vance.
Unless what you meant was "by % of group population, the WAEs are higher in conservativism than Catholics," in which case, I would agree.
White evangelicals are cucked on race and therefore unable to fight for their own interests. Yes, they have been a stumbling block to Judeo-Bolshevism, but you can’t win by always playing defense. Yes, they should be protected, because they are our people, but they are de-politicized, passive, inert. Look at the Calvinists in South Africa slowly being swallowed up and erased because they are unwilling to fight for their own state. It is the same in America.
It doesn't seem like we've had to debate evolution as much recently, which is okay, but a new ironic self-own by evangelicals has been ivf. You can debate how many evangelicals really oppose it but a fast way to make someone hate you is to say, "you just shouldn't have kids, it's too late."
"Gran Torino and the subversion of heroism" by Wyatt Stagg a prime example of how a host nation must always keep control over its media and propaganda outlets.
With Yarvin's breaking of my mind on what it means to be "right wing" in the first place, I'm starting to gather this idea of letting people be people. I think his diatribes on Dutch Pillarization nailed it best, it explains why somehow I resonate with the Hoteps, somehow White Nationalists and Black Nationalists are on the same side: Both are happy to live in separate governments and spaces from each other, and happy to allow yet other places to encourage cosmopolitanism. In this same sense, I'd love a Roman Catholic near-theocracy, and would be happy to leave geographical space for a WAE theocracy next door, as long as all these places allow for voluntary exit. The real issue is "cramming your religion down other people's throats" in the form of public policy, which the Progressives absolutely refuse to admit that's what they been doing.
I have to say, being raised RC in "Lower Alabama" (north FL), I always saw WAEs as my enemies, or more like thorns in my side when defending against atheists, because they (and the media) would often lump us together. And sure, as an RC, I largely believe that Protestantism as a whole inevitably lead to all the problems we have today. (Of course, Orthodox would play the same cards against me over the Filioque, so I suppose, I know that feel, bros.)
But being in the painfully online Deep Right space in the past several years, I have really come to respect WAEs as indeed being the Lone Bulwark in many cases, and of course I've always voted pro-life alongside them. I've found myself defending them in political realms far more often since Trump's first term, which surprised me a little bit. But it's true, all the armies of Progressivism are arrayed against us both, and I think we need to work together. Maybe a Pillarization angle as an end goal is in order. In any case, we have bigger fish to fry, brothers. I'll stand up for you. Deus Vult!
I thought most White Evangelicals were dispensational Christian Zionists? Those who are not should be defended. Otherwise, they are quite wittingly allying themselves with our most deadly enemies and should treated accordingly.
You debate Theology with people who have your best interests in mind. You're never going to fix the problems, because the White Evangelical isn't stupid enough to listen to you (by & large).
While I agree that smokers are persecuted, after decades of research in healthcare policies and medical research, the most persecuted and hated people are fat people. The junk science pushed by government and special interests for decades has succeeded in fostering contempt, among even Christians, against people based on their genetic body size and type. The "Obesity" "epidemic" is huge business, money maker for endless interests, and way to grow government programs, tests and drug mandates, food and social programs. Worse, they are succeeding in moving our culture to blame victims if they develop a chronic diseases of AGING. claiming they have failed to follow the government-private interests' fabricated ideals of what we all must eat and do, and the perfect numbers we all must have, to achieve perfect "wellness." It's pseudoscience, and not only fails to follow good science but also to follow Biblical teachings.
After the Immigration Act of 1924, Catholicism began to take root in the heavily migrated areas on the two coasts of the US. Protestants, by the 60s remained in their pre-20th century numbers in only the heartlands and American south. These two regions should be noted as the most conservative and traditional of the nation: the people who opposed interventionism in the two World Wars, and formed the brunt of the pushback to the Progressive Revolution of the 60-70s. When the many mainline churches went liberal, it was no surprise that this core of Americans became Evangelicals, which in the late 20th century meant a commitment to scriptural teachings that were being abandoned by the mainlines, as well as a revivalist (or literally evangelical) attitude.
From Dixieland to Boise, these folks have been the overwhelming "bulwark" to progressivism, which should not come as a shock considering their roots. 83% of them voted for Trump in 2024, the highest of any bloc in the country, a wild number considering there may be as much as 50 million of them.
My only complaint about White Evangelicals is how politically naive they've been, but that applies to all American conservatism. They're good people, with decent values, trying to do what's right. You know what they lack? Leadership that isn't totally subverted.
As for Pope Leo XIV, I'm doing what Catholics everywhere (and all Christians really) should be doing. I'm praying for His Holiness to be guided by the Holy Ghost to lead the Church in the way which glorifies Our Lord. It's not so much to ask for believers to pray for their leaders.
How naive have black evangelicals been? They've voted for their Democrat masters for many decades.
If the Right wants to keep losing, all they need to do is keep throwing White American Evangelicals under the bus. Every time they’re dismissed as backward, mocked as uncool, or sidelined in favor of more cosmopolitan coalitions, the Right weakens its very spine. Like it or not, White American Evangelicals are the essential demographic to restoring any semblance of national coherence, moral clarity, and cultural survival.
No, this doesn’t mean their culture will become the high culture of the new regime. It won’t—and it shouldn’t. It’s the responsibility of the emergent elite to lead: to craft a new civilizational vision that inspires and uplifts the people who still believe in something greater than themselves. That’s what leadership is: not chasing the aesthetic of the people, but building a culture worthy of their loyalty.
But if you think you can win without them, you’re delusional. Don’t believe me? Walk into a megachurch on a Sunday morning. Look around. You may find yourself thinking what I did the first time: this level of organization happens every week? The volunteers, the childcare, the logistics, the music, the commitment—every single Sunday, across the country.
That’s not a weakness. That’s not a liability. That’s latent power.
White American Evangelicals are a key piece to winning. In fact, they may be our Hekatoncheires—the ancient giants, scorned and forgotten, who turned the tide when unleashed. No other group in the West still gathers like this, still believes like this, still raises families like this. They’re not perfect. But they’re still alive—and still willing to fight for something.
Mock them, and you lose. Lead them, and we just might win.
Yes, I'm a White Evangelical American.
New Atheism gained massive ground in the early 00s because Evangelical Christianity in the 70s-90s was an absolute dumpster fire.
The Evangelical churches did tremendous damage with absurd dogmas; physically and psychologically abusive practices; egalitarian anti-white, third-world guilt-tripping; end-times lunacy; and rabid Zionism -- all of which turned waves of the young straight into the arms of leftists who "did Jesus" better than the churches who preached him.
Doubt this? Head over to /r/exvangelical and just spend some time reading about the experiences of people who are "deconstructing", and *why* they are doing so. To a man, they are almost all progressives liberals now.
Donald Trump's Avatar of Evangelicalism, Paula White, is a shameless grifter who preys on people through mass hypnosis techniques and emotional manipulation. Is this what you want to defend?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4daeEacIVI
I agree with this. I grew up in an environment as evangelical as it gets. This idea of one person reading the Bible and translating it for himself is what evangelicals are really all about, and I have seen it over and over really hurt and damage people. I’m too American to be orthodox I don’t like the idea of just “refer to the church fathers, refer to the church fathers,” either, which leaves me no where to go.
Total mischaracterization and straw man. Note that White Evangelicals are more conservative than all other Christian denominations including Catholics
Not Catholics writ large, they vary greatly. But I agree there's a (disturbing, IMO) broad swathe of Catholic liberals. Then there's the Catholic Right, and they range from neocons like Paul Ryan to based bros like JD Vance.
Unless what you meant was "by % of group population, the WAEs are higher in conservativism than Catholics," in which case, I would agree.
Regardless, (white) evangelicals are going to be reviled.
White evangelicals are cucked on race and therefore unable to fight for their own interests. Yes, they have been a stumbling block to Judeo-Bolshevism, but you can’t win by always playing defense. Yes, they should be protected, because they are our people, but they are de-politicized, passive, inert. Look at the Calvinists in South Africa slowly being swallowed up and erased because they are unwilling to fight for their own state. It is the same in America.
Hmm. I would have thought JWs were the most hated, but perhaps the most despised is a more accurate description.
Of course, they also aren’t a voting bloc, so nobody cares.
It doesn't seem like we've had to debate evolution as much recently, which is okay, but a new ironic self-own by evangelicals has been ivf. You can debate how many evangelicals really oppose it but a fast way to make someone hate you is to say, "you just shouldn't have kids, it's too late."
"Gran Torino and the subversion of heroism" by Wyatt Stagg a prime example of how a host nation must always keep control over its media and propaganda outlets.
Always enjoy articles from the Turnip Merchant!
With Yarvin's breaking of my mind on what it means to be "right wing" in the first place, I'm starting to gather this idea of letting people be people. I think his diatribes on Dutch Pillarization nailed it best, it explains why somehow I resonate with the Hoteps, somehow White Nationalists and Black Nationalists are on the same side: Both are happy to live in separate governments and spaces from each other, and happy to allow yet other places to encourage cosmopolitanism. In this same sense, I'd love a Roman Catholic near-theocracy, and would be happy to leave geographical space for a WAE theocracy next door, as long as all these places allow for voluntary exit. The real issue is "cramming your religion down other people's throats" in the form of public policy, which the Progressives absolutely refuse to admit that's what they been doing.
I have to say, being raised RC in "Lower Alabama" (north FL), I always saw WAEs as my enemies, or more like thorns in my side when defending against atheists, because they (and the media) would often lump us together. And sure, as an RC, I largely believe that Protestantism as a whole inevitably lead to all the problems we have today. (Of course, Orthodox would play the same cards against me over the Filioque, so I suppose, I know that feel, bros.)
But being in the painfully online Deep Right space in the past several years, I have really come to respect WAEs as indeed being the Lone Bulwark in many cases, and of course I've always voted pro-life alongside them. I've found myself defending them in political realms far more often since Trump's first term, which surprised me a little bit. But it's true, all the armies of Progressivism are arrayed against us both, and I think we need to work together. Maybe a Pillarization angle as an end goal is in order. In any case, we have bigger fish to fry, brothers. I'll stand up for you. Deus Vult!
Good reminder, Mr. Turnipseed
I thought most White Evangelicals were dispensational Christian Zionists? Those who are not should be defended. Otherwise, they are quite wittingly allying themselves with our most deadly enemies and should treated accordingly.
Everyone is allied with our most deadly enemies, unless you wanna team up with muslims... and they dont like you either.
You debate Theology with people who have your best interests in mind. You're never going to fix the problems, because the White Evangelical isn't stupid enough to listen to you (by & large).
While I agree that smokers are persecuted, after decades of research in healthcare policies and medical research, the most persecuted and hated people are fat people. The junk science pushed by government and special interests for decades has succeeded in fostering contempt, among even Christians, against people based on their genetic body size and type. The "Obesity" "epidemic" is huge business, money maker for endless interests, and way to grow government programs, tests and drug mandates, food and social programs. Worse, they are succeeding in moving our culture to blame victims if they develop a chronic diseases of AGING. claiming they have failed to follow the government-private interests' fabricated ideals of what we all must eat and do, and the perfect numbers we all must have, to achieve perfect "wellness." It's pseudoscience, and not only fails to follow good science but also to follow Biblical teachings.